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[Seth2700]

New player here, I might have missed it in the rule book, but what are the armor value changes for turret bunkers? In flames of war they gain +1 to front armor but in MP the armor ratings are higher across all sides and I don't think +1 would be enough?

[Kenny Noe]

I'm a little confused.   Turret bunkers are static tank turrets mounted on either a buried hull or a concrete structure.  There would be no additional values to be added to just the exposed turret.

 

Would be interested in knowing why FOW thinks a static tank turret should gain additional defensive values.   Rules designers,  we're a different breed....   <smile>

[Seth2700]

So the front, side and top armour values would stay the same for a concrete turret bunker in MP? I kinda understood the thought process of increasing the armor value, but if it stays the same that makes it easy for me, I'm making like unit cards to make it easier for my friends to play, so I was going to make a unit card for the bunker but if the stats are the same as the tank but static that's easy enough to explain

[Kenny Noe]

A "concrete turret bunker" does not have a concrete housing that the turret sits in.   This is different from an enclosed artillery bunker.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Seth2700]

I just want to know how it plays in this game, so just use the tanks stats,minus mobility, since they would be aiming at the turret to disable it anyway, same armor values

[Kenny Noe]

You are correct

[Seth2700]

Awesome thank you, the friends I'm playing with most of them this is their first miniature game they've played, the flexibility of the rules is great for slowly increasing the depth of the rules as they learn. By far, my favorite miniatures ruleset I've played

[Kenny Noe]

Good luck.   If you have more questions put'em in the forum.   Glad to help.

 

 

Any chance you are going to Historicon 2023?  https://www.hmgs.org/mpage/HconHome

 

ODGW will be on site running Mein Panzer, General Quarters 3.3, Historical Battlelines and Mein Zombies

 

Hope to see you there.

[Begemot_]

As an additional note, I would apply the 'Hull Down Prepared' modifier to these turret bunkers, unless they are like the Tiger turrets depicted above, mounted on above ground concrete pedestals.

[Seth2700]

That makes sense I'll probably do that, and I would love to go but probably not this year, been busy work season

[Peter M. Skaar]

I agree with Begemot here.  There should be a negative to hit modifier such as prepared hull down since it is only the turret and not the rest of the vehicle.