Why bother with secondary battery armour?
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Posted 06 September 2006 - 04:09 AM
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Posted 07 September 2006 - 01:33 AM
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Posted 07 September 2006 - 01:33 AM
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Posted 07 September 2006 - 02:46 AM
So unlikely that I don't think we need worry about it. There are an awfully large number of hull boxes on those ships.However, remember that many vessels worked on the "all or nothing armour" principal, so parts of the hull (usually the ends) would not be protected and could be holed with minor effect, but these could affect the streamlining of the hull and so the speed.Under the rules, a non-penetrating Hull hit scores a 1/2 Hull box. So, under your suggestion, as it stands, we may have the unusual situation of a 8" (or 6") gun armed cruiser taking down a ship the likes of the Iowa or Yamato by gunfire alone. Not a likely outcome, and one I'm sure you're not advocating.
No. The point is that the secondary armour would have to be penetrated, but at present you can't even register any hits.And, if the point is to make secondary guns venerable to fire by 8" and 6" guns, then the secondaries would have to be moved outside the "armored box" on the BA-B* column.
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Posted 07 September 2006 - 10:42 AM
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Posted 07 September 2006 - 10:39 PM
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Posted 08 September 2006 - 12:24 AM
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Posted 08 September 2006 - 03:45 AM
It also falls into the improbable column.Of 20 hits, on 5 would be hull hits (on average).By my calculations, it would take about 17 turns for 4 Mogami class cruisers (with 10x8" each) to get enough hull hits at 8000 yards to sink a Washington BA.In return, the Washington would be be doing (on average) 2 penetrating hull hits (in addition to any other damage) per turn on whichever ship it shot at in each of those 17 turns.Your scenario is a very remote possibility, agreed. But then I think that the chance of 8" gunfire sinking a BC by gunfire alone is equally ahistorical, and the rules allow this.Using the modification you suggest (allowing 8" to score "x 1/2"), we have 4 IJN 8" gun CAs engage the Washington (with BA armor). After multiple turns the CAs score some 20 hits. They knock out a few secondaries and score 14 hull hits (which, as non-prnrtrating hull hits are reduced to 1/2 hits for a total of 7 hull hits), and sink the Washington through gunfire alone. Now, I'm pretty sure this result falls in the ahistorical column.
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Posted 08 September 2006 - 07:26 PM
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Posted 08 September 2006 - 10:00 PM
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Posted 10 September 2006 - 10:48 PM
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Posted 11 September 2006 - 04:01 PM
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