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Posted 10 October 2005 - 09:36 PM

I am looking to get back to WWII wargamming after a brief stint with warhammer 40k. I have pulled out my copy of MP and have got the fire burning again for historicals. It's amazing what you find in a box after cleaning out the storage shed after moving a few years ago. Wondered where O had misplaced my rules....:)I am looking to work on a Fallshirmjager army based on the Battlground Fallshirmjager miniatures.:woohoo: Does anyone have any ideas as to the structure of a Fallshirmjager unit in comparison to the Pazer Grenadierlist in the Databook?Any suggestions for good reference material or on how to structure the TO&E would be great.Thanks,Todd Rinaca

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 11:42 AM

Hey Todd,I would be willing to bet that Jon has a TO&E for the Fallshirmjagers. Problem is it may take him a bit to get it out due to the website rebuilds. I will look at my links when I get home (at work now :whistle: ) and if I have anything I'll get it posted for you. :) ~ Bob ~ODGW Designer

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 11:43 AM

Todd,I can send you info as well. Let me know.Gregory

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 12:30 PM

gregoryk wrote:

I can send you info as well. Let me know.

Gregory ... is it something you can post here? I'm coming up dry on my resources here. I have hundreds of TO&E but it appears not a single one for the Fallshirmjagers. I'll keep looking, but if you can post something, that would be a start.

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 04:51 PM

Gregory and Jon,Thanks for the fast replies to my question.Please send me what you have. It would be greatly appreciatted:)I would request that any info that you have be posted or loaded to this site for use by the rest of the forum.Thanks again.Todd Rinaca

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Posted 17 October 2005 - 11:46 PM

Try http://www.feldgrau.com/

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 11:38 PM

This is from another, older, rulesystem I have called Phoenix Command:

A typical rifle company would consist of an HQ unit of 1 officer and 35 enlisted and 3 rifle platoons of 1 officer and 38 enlisted divided into 3 squads of 12-13 men (on paper of course)The Platoon ideally was a mix of about 16 rifles(by 44 a mixture of FG42s and MP44/MP43 with a number of Gewehr 33/40 for sniper work),9 MP-40s(officers and senior NCOs),and 6 machine guns (double the number in regular infantry squads).The machine guns were most often the MG34 as the MG42, while slowly supplanting it, was judged less desirable due to its increased weight and difficulty deploying.Also most Paras carried a pistol when possible.A throw back to the early days in Holland and Crete where these were the only weapons carried in the jump,with the rest in containers).

I have some early war TO&E which I'll post in a crude form shortly.

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 11:42 PM

Ok, and this is from Command Decision ... which isn't a 1:1 game, but it might give some guidelines.

DIVISIONAL HEADQUARTERS: 1 Command Stand 1 Car 1 Staff Radio Truck 1 RkPzB Stand 1 Light TruckDIVISIONAL RECON COMPANY 1 Command Weapons Stand 3 Recon Infantry Stands 2 Medium Trucks3 FALLSCHIRMJAGER INFANTRY REGIMENTS, each with: HEADQUARTERS COMPANY, with: 1 Command Stand 1 Kubelwagon 1 Staff Radio Truck 1 76L16 Infantry Gun 1 Gun Crew Stand (DS) 1 Medium Truck 2 Medium Supply TrucksANTITANK COMPANY, with: 1 75L46 AT Gun 1 Gun Crew Stand (DS) 6 RkPzB Stands 4 Medium TrucksHEAVY MORTAR COMPANY, with: 2 120mm Mortars 2 Gun Crew Stands (DS) 2 Medium Trucks3 FALLSCHIRMJAGER BATTALIONS, each with: BATTALION HEADQUARTERS, with: 1 Command Stand 1 Kubelwagen (*) 1 Medium Supply Truck3 FALLSCHIRMJAGER COMPANIES, each with: 1 Command Weapons Stand 3 Infantry Stands 2 Medium Trucks (*)1 MACHINEGUN COMPANY, with: 2 MMG Stands 1 5cm Mortar Stand (DS) 2 Medium Trucks (*)ENGINEER BATTALION, with: BATTALION HEADQUARTERS, with: 1 Command Stand 1 Kubelwagon 1 RkPzB Stand 1 Light Truck 1 Medium Supply Truck with Trailer3 ENGINEER COMPANIES, each with: 1 Command Weapons Stand 1 Engineer Flamethrower Stand 2 Engineer Stands 2 Medium TrucksANTITANK BATTALION, with: BATTALION HEADQUARTERS, with: 1 Command Stand 1 Kubelwagon 1 Staff Radio Truck 4 RkPzB Stands 1 Medium Supply TruckANTITANK COMPANY, with: 3 75L46 AT Guns 3 Gun Crews (DS) 3 Medium TrucksASSAULT GUN COMPANY. with 1 Command StuG IIIg 2 StuG IIIgANTI-AIRCRAFT BATTERY, with: 3 2cm SP AA FLAK BATTALION, with: BATTALION HEADQUARTERS, with: 1 Command Stand 1 Kubelwagon 1 Staff Radio Truck 1 RkPzB Stands 1 Light Truck 2 Medium Supply Trucks3 FLAK COMPANIES, each with: 1 88L56 AA Gun 1 Gun Crew Stand (DS) 1 Heavy Tractor 1 2cm. L113 AA Gun 1 Gun Crew Stand 1 Light TractorARTILLERY REGIMENT, with: REGIMENTAL HEADQUARTERS, with: 1 Command Stand 1 Kubelwagon 1 Staff Radio Truck 1 RkPzB Stands 1 Light Truck 2 Medium Supply Trucks2 LIGHT ARTILLERY BATTALIONS, each with: BATTALION HEADQUARTERS, with 1 Command Stand 1 FO Stand 2 Kubelwagons 1 Medium Supply Truck 1 2cm L113 AA Gun 1 Gun Crew 1 Light Tractor3 FIRING BATTERIES, each with: 1 105L28 Howitzer 1 Gun Crew (DS) 1 Heavy TractorMEDIUM ARTILLERY BATTALIONS, with: BATTALION HEADQUARTERS, with 1 Command Stand 1 FO Stand 2 Kubelwagons 1 Medium Supply Truck 1 2L113 AA Gun 1 Gun Crew 1 Light Tractor 3 FIRING BATTERIES, each with: 1 150L30 Howitzer 1 Gun Crew (DS) 1 Heavy TractorHEAVY MORTAR BATTALION, with: BATTALION HEADQUARTERS, with: 1 Command Stand 1 Kubelwagon 1 RkPzB Stands 1 Light Truck 2 Medium Supply Trucks3 MORTAR COMPANIES, each with: 3 120mm Mortar 3 Gun Crew Stands (DS) 3 Medium TrucksFallschirmjager Notes1. COMPANY DESIGNATIONS: All companies are numbered consecutively within the regiment of battalion. In the infantry regiments the Mortar Company is numbered 13, and the Antitank Company is numbered 14. 2. INTEGRAL ANTITANK WEAPONS: All infantry, recon, engineer, weapons, MMG, and command stands are equipped with Panzerfausts. 3. INDIVIDUAL COMMND STANDS: In place of the combined weapons/command stands, players may use separate command and weapons stands. 4. MOTORIZED FALLSCHIRMJAGER DIVISIONS: These divisions have the extra vehicles marked with a (*) to motorize their infantry and engineer elements - semi motorized divisions lack these vehicles. 5. MORALE AND TROOP QUALITY: 1st FALLSCHIRMAGER DIVISION: Veteran, Morale 10 (1st Fallschirmjager Regiment: Elite, Morale 11) 2nd FALLSCHIRMJAGER DIVISION: Veteran, Morale 10 3rd FALLSCHIRMJAGER DIVISION: 1943 to September 1944 - Veteran, Morale 10 October 44 to April 1945 - Experienced, Morale 8 4th FALLSCHIRMJAGER DIVISION: Experienced, Morale 8 5th FALLSCHIRMJAGER DIVISION: Experienced, Morale 9 6th FALLSCHIRMJAGER DIVISION: Experienced, Morale 9 7th FALLSCHIRMJAGER DIVISION: Veteran, Morale 10 8th FALLSCHIRMJAGER DIVISION: Experienced, Morale 8 9th FALLSCHIRMJAGER DIVISION: Experienced, Morale 8 10th FALLSCHIRMJAGER DIVISION: Experienced, Morale 8






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