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[James Thompson]

I have the GQ3.3 rules and on page xii it states "A light yellow shaded Box denotes the reduction in maximum speed resulting from an engineering hit, described in rule section 1.7.2.......

The rules are B/W and doesn't have a yellow hull box or even a gray box to show this info. Where is this yellow box at?

 

Thanks

Jim

[cooldiscodan31]

It's down with the hull boxes.   

 

Looking at the PDF copy now, On anything with 7 hull box's its on the middle box, anything with 6 it's the third box from the left.   They are shaded yellow on the PDF not sure on the physical book I don't have mine in front of me.    

[James Thompson]

Thanks!

 

Yeah, the physical copy doesn't have the boxes marked

I downloaded the rules and those are in color so I'm using that to go by

 

Jim

 

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[Jim O'Neil]

Gentlemen, Not every ship has a yellow box. Unless I'm mistaken, it was to indicate the ship had separate engineering spaces with two complete sets of everything (parallel machinery), so if one engine room was disabled, the other could quickly separate itself and provide power for movement and all other needs (electricity, steam for cooking etc.) Not all ships with two funnels were so arranged. While there may have been multiple boiler rooms, the ships machinery (turbines, gearing etc.) may not have been separated. This was an older set up, but by no means unusual in WW2.  Most all new warships were built this was however.

Obviously you need color ships charts to see this ...  But to assume that everything with two stacks had parallel machinery would be a mistake.

[cooldiscodan31]

From what I am reading every ship has a yellow box to signify the engineering hit.    Ships with a single ER are denoted with the "one ER" to the right of the hull boxes. 

 

So the way I have always played it:

Ships with "one ER" are disabled on the first engineering hit
All other ships slow to yellow box on the first hit and disabled on the second.

 

Then rule 1.9.4 goes on about hits beyond 2.  

 

And then Parallel boiler/engine rooms are noted with the UE mark next to the hull boxes.  Unit engineering only comes into play for option rule 1.7.6 on page 5-3

[Kenny Noe]

If you have registered your copy of GQIII you have access to the PDF file in the Private Download library.  The PDF is in color and the pages you are looking for can be printed at your convenance.