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[Doug Pappert]

I have a some STLs for some tanks that I do not see in the data book or the secret weapons book.  I was curious if there was a way to stat these vehicles out.  I always like a good "what if" scenario and would like to use these in some games.  The vehicles include the following.

Panzer IV Ausf. J w/Panther Schmalturm Turret.  Basically a Pz IV with a Panther II turret.    

Panzer V Panther Ausf. D w/Panzer IV Turret.  Basically a Panther with a Pz IV turret.

T-34-76 Model 1941-42 Ekranami (with up-armour).  Looks like an up armored T-34-76.

 

Any help with this would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Doug

[Kenny Noe]

Send links to the vehicles you are looking at and we'll see if we can get you some stats.

 

Thanks

[Kenny Noe]

OK so found info on the Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm  - https://tanks-encycl...mit-schmalturm/

 

from this I was able to create these stats (WWII version)

 

[Doug Pappert]

Here is the links for the first two.

 

https://tanks-encycl...mit-schmalturm/

https://www.rctankwa...pic.php?t=21984

[Doug Pappert]

Here is a link to the T-34.

 

https://www.myminifa...ni-hobby-410606

[Kenny Noe]

Doug,

 

Thanks, I've created stats for the Pz IV vehicle (see above)

 

The Panzer V Panther Ausf. D w/Panzer IV Turret was never a combat capable vehicle.  If you want to make one I'd recommend combining the stats from a PZIV (OM and OV) with the stats from a PzV (everything except OV and OM).

 

Comments about the vehicle:

The only confirmed case of a Panther with a Pzkw IV turret was a command vehicle, used by Army Heavy Tank Destroyer Detachment 503. It served on the Eastern Front in early/mid 1944.

The vehicle was cobbled together by bolting a turret salvaged from a knocked out Pzkw IV Ausfg H onto the plated over hull of an early model Bergepanther armoured recovery vehicle (ARV). The gun was a dummy and the turret was fixed in place, serving only to camouflage the command vehicle's specialist role.

 

As for the T-34/76 the only reference I can find to "up armored" as a mention that refurbished T-34/76 had 30mm plate welded on to glacis and turret front and sides.  This caused additional performance issues with gears and engine due to extra weight.

 

T-34/76 stats : you can add +3 to the DV front and side but reduce the CC Pips by 2 and the Road Pips by one.  This should give you something you can use on the tabletop.

 

Everything in this thread should be considered as a "House Rule".  It's fun to play what if games.

 

Thanks