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[Ian Hayward]

Can anyone point me to the following Royal Navy logs? I can't spot them!C Class DD (Caesar, Comet, Cambrian etc.)Town Class DD (Leeds, Campbeltown, etc.)W Class DD (Kempenfelt, Wager, Whirlwind, etc.)Thanks,IanH, Warminster, UK.

[Cpt M]

Logs for the 'Ca', 'Z' and 'W' classes are not included. per se. That being said, all of these classes were essentially repeats of the 'V' class (ie, Virago and Vigilant which are in the logs) with the only change for the 'Ca' and 'Z' classes being 4.5" guns replacing the 4.7" guns. For the rest, the stats would remain the same.For the early 'Towns' (those that were lightly modified US 'flush decks'), you could use the logs fron the RNN Supplement (USS Pope, USS Pillsbury, etc.) with changes to the armament. For the more heavily modified 'Towns', you're on your own, given the considerable number of modificatons made. Lenton and Colledge break the 50 'Towns' into 5 major groups with a considerable number of variants above that. Best option would be to use the US 'flush decks' as the starting point and modify as needed.

[Ian Hayward]

Thanks!

[Richard Cornwell]

I've acquired models of a couple of Ceres class cruisers. It looks like they were converted to AA ships with 10 4" guns. I can't find a log for this class. Any ideas?

[Cpt M]

Two (Coventry and Curlew) of the five Ceres class were the prototypes of of the AA conversions (completed in 1935-36) later extended to Curacoa and the five ships of the Capetown class. Originally they carried 10x4" in five twin mounts, which was reduced to 8x4" (in 1939-40). Curacoa was converted 1939-40 and had 8x4". The remaining two ships, Ceres and Cardiff, carried their original fit of 5x6" and 2x3" AA and spent most of the war in training or secondary duties. Since the 'C' class AA cruiser comversions were essentailly the same design throughout, you can use the stats for Calcutta for the early war fit and Carlisle for the later war fit. For the 10x4" versions (very early war), add a 2x4" turret in B position.

[Dan Canton]

And speaking of ship logs, how about the old Omaha class CLs? Every time I play there's at least one Omaha on the table, but I cant' seem to find a ship log for her. Anyone?

[gregoryk]

Omaha class is included as part of the Royal Netherlands Navy Supplement, available here.Cheers,Gregory

[Bruce E. Schwark]

I have been trying to transpose a few scenarios from GQ2 to GQ3. In particular, the hypothetical battle between Force Z and the IJN cruisers and destroyers searching them out.What would the ship's log look like for the: RN DD Tenedos and the RAN DD Vampire?One other thing. I have tried downloading the RNN supplement, but have been unable to find it. I tried the link on this forum, but can't gain access.:unsure:

[gregoryk]

When did you purchase it?Gregory

[Cpt M]

Vampire was a one of four 'Admiralty V' class DDs transfered to the RAN in 1933 (the others were Waterhen, Voyager, and Vendetta). All are included in the logs under 'RN Escorts' (located on the last two lines of the log). Tenedos was one of four old 'Admiralty S' class DDs assigned to Hong Kong (the others were Thracian, Thanet, and Scout). These were part of a small group of survivors from the large class of DDs built 1918-1920 (the remainder were scrapped between the wars). Unfortunately, these are not included on the logs. The stats for these ships would be: Armament: 1x4" (forward), 1x3" AA (aft) AA Factors: .5 (1.25) 2 DC launchers (7 DCs) Sonar: = No Radar, No RFC Hull Boxes: 5 boxes (Speeds: 30, 24, 18, 13, 6) Note that they did not carry any torpedoes; these had been removed pre-war when they were converted to ASW escorts. Hope this helps!

[Malcolm Wright]

Work is continuing on editing the extensive ship logs I have completed for GQIII. I would hope that we will see the first sets available to the public soon, via pdf files from Old Dominion Gameworks. Its been a huge job. Quite massive actually. But I can see a light at the end of the tunnel at last. Once they are published I can spend my time on my WW2 Convoy games. One of that series is under thorough testing by overseas gamers and the results so far have been very good.

[Joel Tompkins]

Along a similar line ... can someone point me to a cross reference for the ship names on the printed logs and the corresponding "class" of ship? Thanks.

[Cpt M]

No such listing is on the site, but here are a couple of online sources.For the USN, a good source would the 'Dictionary of Naval Fighting Ships' (DANFS), available at:http://www.hazegray.org/danfs/For the IJN, the best source is the 'Combined Fleet' site at:http://www.combinedfleet.com/For the Kriegsmarine, one good source is:http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/index.htmlFor the Regia Marina, the following is a good source:http://www.regiamarina.net/Unfortunately, I can't help you with the RN or the French.As for books, the best single volume source would be 'Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships 1922-1946'

[Jim O'Neil]

http://www.netherlandsnavy.nl is a great source for the RNN.

[Wayne Pocock]

Or you could try this site http://www.warshipsw....php?language=E Covers just about everything that floated and had a gun between 1900 and 1950.

[Joe Donnelly]

Along a similar line ... can someone point me to a cross reference for the ship names on the printed logs and the corresponding "class" of ship? Thanks.

As a new user, I must say that this is one of the first things I looked for in the manual, and I'm surprised that such a reference is not included. For cruisers and smaller ships, logs provided by class rather than by ship name would have been more useful. Many current ship logs are simple repetitions. I guess I was hoping that "more than 590 individual ships" meant "different" ships. :blush: Still, it's an impressive package overall, and I'm well pleased.

[Jim O'Neil]

Depending on the Navy and year, many sister ships rapidly became slightly different. The US tended to mass produce ships, but as we just noted on another site, CLEVELAND and COLUMBIA completed with Mk-3 FC radar, the next ships got Mk-8. That is not an insignificant difference for supposedly sister ships. The Fletcher's were an array of differences and many British ships of the same class ceased to be similar.It's really a matter of what level of detail and accuracy you seek.

[jim_mud]

Omaha class is included as part of the Royal Netherlands Navy Supplement, available here.Cheers,Gregory

Is this link broken?

[Cpt M]

Is this link broken?

The RNN Supplement is available here:  http://www.odgw.com/...gital-download/

[Jackc]

The rules say to use the speed in the light yellow shaded shaded hull box when having an engineering hit. My SDS's are in B&W,

is this referring to a future product?